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    Translation help! (sorry could'nt find a OT-forum)

    I have a text I'm about to tranlate from Swedish to English and i would need some help so it will be correct :-)
    I have no problem tranlate the other way around but from in this text there is a lot i think feels wrong. I think the grammar are comlete out of the woods :-)

    Soo please if someone who has english as their native language want to help me, i would be so greatful :-D I started out with the first part but now im just to tired... so i thought maybe best to get som help and then finish up tomorrow....

    Here is the text

    Warning to fraudsters behind the cat ads!

    I am breeder of Maine Coon. The last few years I have gotten some calls and also heard about a lot of other breeders who also received calls from desperate buyers that have been duped! I want hereby clarify just ONE thing and one thing only, a Maine Coon is a purebred, registered in any cat association, and has ... pedigree! The same applies to other breeds such as Ragdolls, Birman, Sphynx, Ocicat, Bengal and others.


    There are some things that you as a buyer be aware of!

    * A cat without a pedigree is a domestic cat, nothing else. It does not matter how much purebred the parents are or are claimed to be. A cat' without pedigree is and will always be a domestic cat. And without a pedigree - what really proves that parents are the ones that they claimed to be?

    * Some kittens, claims to be 25% Maine Coon, Ragdoll 25%, 75% etc. Birman. This is a warning sign that the breeder is not serious. Is'nt both parents pedigree cats – and of the same breed, the kittens will be domestic cats nothing else.
    Percent Mixture is frequently quoted to do the domestics more attractive to buyers, and is used as a reason to charge a higher price. Here, we have also a huge risk when the Maine Coon is a large part HCM and HD, among Ragdoll there is HCM and PKD, in Birman we have yet another type of heart disease called RCM.

    * Two long-haired cats can NOT get a short-haired kitten, watch out for that! If a single kitten in the litter is short haired, well then it may possibly have been a mutation. But getting several short-haired kittens, from two long-haired parents is a genetic impossibility, and a way to lure buyers pay more for alleged races in a kitten, who does not really exist.

    * There is no race called Norsk skogskatt, but it's often referred to as virtually all long-haired cats for skogskatt. The real version is called Norwegian Forest Cats - and is always registered in the cat associations and have a pedigree.

    * Domestic cat is naturally present in all hair lengths, a long-haired domestic cat does not mean that it is a purebred cat itself. Domestic cat is also in all possible forms of patterns and colors and even in different amounts of white, this does not mean that the domestic cat has any kind of purebred cat itself.

    * A domestic cat can not (in sweden) be insured for more than 1 500 SEK, so do not pay more for your house cat. With that price the kitten should be dewormed, vaccinated twice, ID-marked and a have a healthcertificat from a veterinarian. Note that for a domestic cat that is vaccinated x2, ID-marked, having a healthcertificat from the veterinarian, and also is early neutered a price of up to 3000 SEK should be quite in order. But then because of the breeder him or herself have put money in the kittens and made an effort and not because the cat said to have a race in itself. Our house cat is worth money as the unique individual it is!

    * Note that a breeder who has more than one race at home and suffer a sneak mating of these breeds, can report this to his covenant and get a proof of domestic cat kittens.

    What tricks fraudsters then use to lure you to buy unregistered cat?

    * Some argue that sold unregistered cat for the owner is not in any cat club. But! It costs only 350 SEK / year to join a cat club. All breeders must be with the cat club, not only to register their kittens, but also for the cat club's mission is to ensure that the individual breeder comply with the rules and regulations that exist. A breeder who is not having a cat in the club may well be excluded because he or she did not behave. Is there someone you want to entrust the 2000-4000 SEK? Is there anyone whose fraudulent breeding you want to co-sponsor?

    * Another common excuse is that the cats are sold without a pedigree for more people to afford a purebred cat. As I said above is a cat without pedigree, a domestic cat and nothing else. In the other, an alert (ie pedigree) costs 200: - to get out. Consider this: SEK 200, there is not any money to speak of and definitely not something that lowers the price by a few thousand? So what is it that allows them to reduce the price by a few thousand?

    * Sometimes they say to sell unregistered kittens because one or both parents are unregistered and therefore can not register the kittens.
    Why is that?
    - One reason may be that one or both of the parents are not even purebred cat, the breeder might have been fooled from the beginning and so it goes.
    - Another reason to be very careful not to buy an unregistered cat is that there are defects that should not be breed on, and it may be a reason for the breeder can not take on cat litter and solve this by disavowing the record kids. The cat has, therefore, breeding bans.

    I want to with this text in no way saying that a domestic cat is worth less. A domestic cat is a very unique wonderful cat, just like all our other beloved domestic cats.

    A cat does not need to have a few percent raskattsinslag to get better or finer.

    What I mean is that it is important that you are aware of what you buy. Parents will probably be tested, so be aware that there is a risk you take. You can get a cat with diseases that will shorten its life and requires costly veterinary care. You will not get ASSURE cat for more than SEK 1500. You can not make your cat as something other than the domestic cat, if you are interested in the exhibition. Are you interested in breeding so there will be no serious raskattuppfödare want to lend her cat to you, because then they will be expelled from his federal tax, then domestic cat breeding is not allowed.

    Status Cats do not recommend that you buy cats of this kind of seller, and I personally would never advise anyone who asked me for advice on buying a cat from a person like that either. But you still choose to do it, do it with open eyes and was aware of the risks. Do you have any questions, please help me to answer them as best I can! I reached through the cat's own status email.

    / Malin Sundqvist, breeder of Maine Coon breed

    www.kattstatus.se

    This text allows Malin Sundqvist be distributed freely on websites and blogs, and more!

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    There is an off topic section here
    http://www.maine-coon-forum.info/off-topic-area/

    I have already had a quick look over the script and there's just a few things that need to be re phrased. I'm going off line now but will have a look at it later.
    I've no doubt a few more folks will help out with your script

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    Warning to fraudsters behind the cat ads!

    I am a breeder of Maine Coon cats. The last few years I have received some calls and also heard about a lot of other breeders who also received calls from desperate buyers that have been duped! I want to hereby clarify just ONE thing and one thing only, a Maine Coon is a purebred, registered in any cat association, and has ... pedigree! The same applies to other breeds such as Ragdolls, Birman, Sphynx, Ocicat, Bengal and others.


    There are some things that you as a buyer need to be aware of!

    * A cat without a pedigree is a domestic cat, nothing else. It does not matter how purebred the parents claimed to be. A cat without a pedigree is, and will always be, a domestic cat. And without a pedigree – there is no proof that the parents are who they claimed to be?

    * Some kittens claim to be 25% Maine Coon, Ragdoll 25%, 75% etc. Birman. This is a warning sign that the breeder is not serious. Unless both parents are pedigree cats, and of the same breed, the kittens will be domestic cats. A mixture as a percentage is frequently quoted to make the domestic cats more attractive to buyers, and is used as a reason to charge a higher price. There is also a huge risk of HCM and HD among Maine Coon, among Ragdoll there is HCM and PKD, and in Birman we have yet another type of heart disease called RCM.

    * Two long-haired cats can NOT make a short-haired kitten, watch out for that! If a single kitten in the litter is short haired, well then it may possibly have been a mutation. But getting several short-haired kittens, from two long-haired parents is a genetic impossibility, and a way to lure buyers to pay more by alleging the pedigree of a kitten, which does not really exist.

    * There is no race called Norsk skogskatt, but it's often referred to as virtually all long-haired cats for skogskatt( Don’t understand that sentence). The real version is called Norwegian Forest Cat - and is always registered in the cat associations and has a pedigree.

    * Domestic cat produce all hair lengths, a long-haired domestic cat does not mean that it is a purebred cat itself. Domestic cats also produce all of the patterns and colors and even in different amounts of white, this does not mean that the domestic cat has any kind of pedigree.

    * A domestic cat can not (in sweden) be insured for more than 1 500 SEK, so do not pay more for your house cat. For that price the kitten should be dewormed, vaccinated twice, ID-marked and have a health certificate from a veterinarian. Note that for a domestic cat that is vaccinated x2, ID-marked, has a health certificate from the veterinarian, and also is early neutered, a price of up to 3000 SEK would be quite in order. This is because the breeder has invested money in the kittens and made an effort and not because the kitten is pedigree in itself. Our house cat is worth money as the unique individual it is!

    * Note that a breeder who has more than one breed at home and suffer a sneak mating of these breeds, can report this to his covenant and get a proof of domestic cat kittens.( not sure what this means)
    What tricks fraudsters then use to lure you to buy unregistered cat?

    * Some breeders argue that for the owner of the sold unregistered cat is not in any cat club. But! It costs only 350 SEK / year to join a cat club. All breeders must be with the cat club, not only to register their kittens, but also for the cat club's mission is to ensure that the individual breeder complies with the rules and regulations that exist. A breeder who does not have a cat registered in the club may well be excluded because he or she did not behave. Is there someone you want to entrust the 2000-4000 SEK? Is there anyone whose fraudulent breeding you want to co-sponsor?

    * Another common excuse is that the cats are sold without a pedigree for more people to afford a purebred cat. As stated above, a cat without pedigree is a domestic cat and nothing else. An alert (ie pedigree) costs 200 to take out: Consider this: SEK 200, there is not any money to speak of and definitely not something that lowers the price by a few thousand? So what is it that allows them to reduce the price by a few thousand?

    * Sometimes say they are selling unregistered kittens because one or both parents are unregistered and therefore can not register the kittens.
    Why is that?
    - One reason may be that one or both of the parents are not even purebred cats, the breeder might have been fooled from the beginning and so on.
    - Another reason to be very careful not to buy an unregistered cat is that there are defects that should not be passed on through breeding, and it may be a reason why the breeder can not take on cat litter and solve this by disavowing the record kids( don’t know what that is). The breeder, therefore, has breeding bans.

    I am in no way saying that a domestic cat is worth less. A domestic cat is a very unique wonderful cat, just like all our other beloved domestic cats.

    A cat does not need to have a few percent raskattsinslag to get better or finer.

    It is important that you are aware of what you buy. Parents will probably be tested, so be aware that there is a risk you take. You can get a cat with diseases that will shorten its life and may require costly veterinary care. You will not get ASSURE cat for more than SEK 1500. You can not make your cat as something other than the domestic cat, if you are interested in the exhibition. Are you interested in breeding so there will be no serious raskattuppfödare want to lend her cat to you, because then they will be expelled from his federal tax, then domestic cat breeding is not allowed.
    Status Cats do not recommend that you buy cats from this kind of breeder, and I personally would never advise anyone who asked me for advice on buying a cat from a person like that either. But if you still choose to do it, do it with open eyes and be aware of the risks. If you have any questions, please contact me to answer them as best I can! I can be reached through the cat's own status email.



    I have had a go at this - not sure if it is the best for grammer

    Red are the changes I made
    Blue means I dont know what the sentence means

    Hope this is helpful - maybe someone can make more adjustments



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    " * There is no race called Norsk skogskatt, but it's often referred to as virtually all long-haired cats for skogskatt( Don’t understand that sentence). The real version is called Norwegian Forest Cat - and is always registered in the cat associations and has a pedigree. :



    Is "Norsk Skogskatt" also an offical name for the breed known in English as "Norwegian Forest Cat"?

    I am guessing that Dagdrivarn is trying to warn buyers that the term is used by some cat sellers for ordinary "long haired cats" which do not have an official pedigree, to try and get more cash. Please tell me if I am wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishKitty View Post
    " * There is no race called Norsk skogskatt, but it's often referred to as virtually all long-haired cats for skogskatt( Don’t understand that sentence). The real version is called Norwegian Forest Cat - and is always registered in the cat associations and has a pedigree. :



    Is "Norsk Skogskatt" also an offical name for the breed known in English as "Norwegian Forest Cat"?

    I am guessing that Dagdrivarn is trying to warn buyers that the term is used by some cat sellers for ordinary "long haired cats" which do not have an official pedigree, to try and get more cash. Please tell me if I am wrong
    You are absolutely correct, but the correct name for the breed "Norwegian Forest Cat" is "Norsk Skogkatt" not "Norsk Skog(s)katt" which is used for almost every longhaired cat thereis people want to say that it's a Norweigan Forest Cat but says the name wrong :-)

    I just have to tell you wich you might already have understood that the text was translated by google translate i often use it to translate from english to swedish but then i just read the text and get the grammar correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dagdrivarn View Post
    You are absolutely correct, but the correct name for the breed "Norwegian Forest Cat" is "Norsk Skogkatt" not "Norsk Skog(s)katt" which is used for almost every longhaired cat thereis people want to say that it's a Norweigan Forest Cat but says the name wrong :-)

    I just have to tell you wich you might already have understood that the text was translated by google translate i often use it to translate from english to swedish but then i just read the text and get the grammar correct.
    "There is no race called Norsk skogskatt, but it's often referred to as virtually all long-haired cats for skogskatt( Don’t understand that sentence). The real version is called Norwegian Forest Cat - and is always registered in the cat associations and has a pedigree."

    Then I would just say:

    "Please be aware that "Norsk Skogskatt" is not an official pedigree, but a term used to cover all domestic long-haired cats in Sweden.
    The official pedigree "Norwegian Forest Cat", which is recognized by the cat association is known as "Norsk Skogkatt" and not "Norsk Skogskatt". Please be aware of the difference in spelling, as both names are easily mixed up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishKitty View Post
    "There is no race called Norsk skogskatt, but it's often referred to as virtually all long-haired cats for skogskatt( Don’t understand that sentence). The real version is called Norwegian Forest Cat - and is always registered in the cat associations and has a pedigree."

    Then I would just say:

    "Please be aware that "Norsk Skogskatt" is not an official pedigree, but a term used to cover all domestic long-haired cats in Sweden.
    The official pedigree "Norwegian Forest Cat", which is recognized by the cat association is known as "Norsk Skogkatt" and not "Norsk Skogskatt". Please be aware of the difference in spelling, as both names are easily mixed up!
    Oohh thanks that was exactly what i was looking for :-)
    It's soo different to write a text in your native language with all the slang and things and expressions and then to translate it so it keeps the tone but still with the correct grammar.

    Thanks a lot

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    Thanks a lot "Heather2mc" I'm really greatful for all the help!!

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    * Note that a breeder who has more than one breed at home and suffer a sneak mating of these breeds, can report this to his covenant and get a proof of domestic cat kittens.( not sure what this means)
    Well I'm not sure how to describe it, but in Sweden if you have a domestic cat, you can apply for something called "Huskattsbevis". You need a Huskattsbevis to be able to show you domestic cat.

    Here you can read more about it, i used google translate on the page but at least you will understand even if the translation is, well you know
    Google Översätt

    - Another reason to be very careful not to buy an unregistered cat is that there are defects that should not be passed on through breeding, and it may be a reason why the breeder can not take on cat litter and solve this by disavowing the record kids( don’t know what that is). The breeder, therefore, has breeding bans.
    Well here google translate really made a good effort making it completely jibberish... Well hmm... i will try to explain what I mean then you can try to find a good way expressing it in correct english.

    What I'm trying to say is that the mother or the father or both can haf a defect like for examble hernia or anything even worse and should not be breed on.
    So in Sweden we have to have a vet check for hernia before we can register the kittens. And we need to have a vet sign on the pedigree or something that a male
    has both his testicles in scrutum. Because we are not allowed to mate a kryptocid male. Sooo well if this person has a cat and want to disobey this, he or she just
    mate anyway and skip the registration. If you are a breeder you will be punished if someone finds out, but who checks the indiviual not member of any association.
    Soo what google means by "breeding bans" is defects that make the cat by an association not allowed to breed on like for example a cat with hernia or cryptoshism.
    Last edited by dagdrivarn; 14th May 2010 at 10:53 PM.

 

 

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