Thread: Kitten food to Grown Cat food?

Originally Posted by Karena

My breeder is already introducing adult food. I'm not very read up about cat food but I have brought a bag of Royal Canin as suggested by my breeder - small bag of kitten and small bag of adult Maine Coon. I was surprised at the price though! I'm not sure what it is I'm paying for yet - if it's just a name thing so I'm going to look at alternatives. My dogs are fed on Skinners, a good food for gun dogs which is vat free suggested by their breeder - a 15kg bag cost as much as a 5kg bag of the Royal Canin cat food! I don't mind paying good money if its for a good reason but personally think Royal Canin might be taking the p**** If I can't find a good complete cat food at a sensible price I may go down the raw food route.

Royal Canin, in my opinion, is a scam. How can they genuinely say they have a cat for indoor cats or Persians or cats that need to look shiny? It is extremely expensive AND if you look at the ingredients... well, picking one at random, the "fit":

Dehydrated poultry meat, rice, maize, dehydrated pork protein, animal fats, maize gluten, hydrolysed animal proteins, wheat, wheat flour, vegetable fibres, beet pulp, yeasts, minerals, soya oil, sodium phosphate, fish oil, egg powder, DL-methionine, hydrolysed yeast (source of manno-oligo-saccharides), taurine, marigold extract (source of lutein), L-lysine.

RICE AND MAIZE? That's filler. Poultry meat is very vague. Maize gluten, wheat, wheat flour, vegetable fibres - more filler. A lot of it is not FOOD ingredients but chemical compounds. Doesn't even tell you the % of meat. Compare that to the ingredients for Applaws dry food:

dried chicken, dried potato, fresh chicken, poultry oil, poultry sauce, beet mash, dried whole egg, dried yeast, salmon oil, cranberry extract, yucca extract, citrus extract, rosemary oil extract

Sounds like real food. It specifies FRESH CHICKEN not just "poultry". Plus it is 80% meat. Royal Canin won't even tell you. Iams is 26% meat.

Originally Posted by messyhearts

Royal Canin, in my opinion, is a scam. How can they genuinely say they have a cat for indoor cats or Persians or cats that need to look shiny? It is extremely expensive AND if you look at the ingredients... well, picking one at random, the "fit":



RICE AND MAIZE? That's filler. Poultry meat is very vague. Maize gluten, wheat, wheat flour, vegetable fibres - more filler. A lot of it is not FOOD ingredients but chemical compounds. Doesn't even tell you the % of meat. Compare that to the ingredients for Applaws dry food:



Sounds like real food. It specifies FRESH CHICKEN not just "poultry". Plus it is 80% meat. Royal Canin won't even tell you. Iams is 26% meat.

cool learn something new everyday but what you curently feeding your cats on specify pls as im genuinely interested as you sem as you have researched alot and not that i hvaent im just new lol

One pouch of wet food an evening of a product that is at least 50% meat (Applaws, Encore, Tesco Finest, Hi Life or Simple) and leave dry food out all day (James Well Beloved, Burns or Applaws).

I would feed Orijen as a dry if I earnt more or raw if I could accept deliveries.

Shelly, a 15kg bag of Skinners field and trial cost £17.99. It lasts me three to four weeks for 2 dogs. I add to that a pound of cooked mince once a day, or fish. I do walk them twice a day but they do well on it. Don't know how you get away with not walking your dog - mine would drive me crazy!

Messyhearts - I will look into Applaws or something similar. I did have my doubts about Royal Canin but I will need to change him over slowly anyway so it's a good idea to have a bag of what he is already used to. As I already cook for my dogs I will also like to add to whatever I end up with anyway. I won't be able to leave food down either very easily because of the dogs at least not until he is older and able to eat where the dogs can't reach!

karena- he is a dobie cross didnt do wel in the police from a puppy i had him 8 wks to 6mths and as i was movin to a flat was not big enuff about 2 weeks after he turned 2 i got house they rang me and aksed if i wanted him back as when on patrole he attacked anoher dog that was abpout to injure an officer (he was being proective which is what they like but he was way to protective )...fate really so i said yes...my back is like a football pitch and i do walk him at about 6am morn and 11pm at night if i dont my partner does i just ment regular hours you would find dogs out lol xxxxxxxxxxx

so can some one spec what i can spend on min for a maine coonand a dsomestic longhaired do MC need fed more than a reg cat? i dnt particulary wanna spend a huge ammount and i feel some ppl do spoile cats so heres my routine if its even one lol
whishas wet pouch with kitten milk diluted and iams 4 times a day but depends as kitten will have what we have too
whiskas kittten pouch with iams and kitten milk diluted
@and again will eat scraps on reg basis toast, bacon, fry up, pasta, spag bol lol@

has raw meat or cooked once a week if time to cook if i have time wit iams and KM
and then maybe tuna for treat on friday as well as wat ive said am i doin wrong
im onli goin by wat iv grown up with aint into al spoiling kids and pets i woudn show kids so not gonna show pets either or breed lol lol xx

soz reall dnt want ppl to feel im incapeable but need some guidance in aspects

Shelly if your cats are doing ok on what you are giving them stick with it. You don't need to buy expensive foods. Adding stuff like you are doing I think is great. Go into a large pet store and look at the different ingredients on the packets and chose one that lists meat as a number one ingredient and is not too pricey. My mother always fed her cat Whiskers and he was a huge cat and lived until he was 17 with no problems. I'm going to look into cat food and will let you know which I choose.

Dobermans - My mother bred them when I was young and they are the dogs I grew up with. We never had a problem with aggression with people or other dogs but they were brought up in a family environment and socialised well when they were young. I had little doubt they would have attacked an intruder though. If yours was with the police I expect they brought out the aggression in him. They are protective dogs but also wonderfully faithful to their family. If I ever get another dog I would like to go back to them one day. It's a shame you have this problem with yours - but it's not his fault or yours. It must be hard to walk him when others are not around. Have you tried just putting a muzzle on him and letting him go with other dogs. I know you will get a few people giving you a wide birth but at the end of the day he can't hurt anything if he has a muzzle and he may end up getting better with interaction with them. Some dog are a lot worse on the lead than being free - they can sense your tension which you must have when meeting other dogs.

This is a really great thread!
My breeder actually recommended "Applaws" as well as "Royal Canine".
Havn't been able to find "applaws" here in the petshop.
They seem to all stock royal canine

we have tried a muzzle and mouth restraint and have also tried social dog classes one on one with different dogs he is fine and fine off the lead (went on holiday and left him with dog minder) i think when he feels restricted (on lead) he feels he cant protec his master, hes an amazing dog a big big baby and protects us really well in a way i think its fate he was over 50 miles away frm me i broke my heart and i got him back and he has nevr bitten my childrenand no matter who or what landlord i would live on the streets for him these dayss hes my tru other half lol and was he only ever curious to smell the new baby, hes a big pussy cat(dont tell him that) but my guardian angel xxx