I have a bit of a fancy for a black smoke baby (not that hubby agrees!) and I ahven't seen that many about. Are they difficult to come buy and will I pay more as a result? Any ideas?:smile:
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I have a bit of a fancy for a black smoke baby (not that hubby agrees!) and I ahven't seen that many about. Are they difficult to come buy and will I pay more as a result? Any ideas?:smile:
As far as I know, although they look striking, black smokes are no more uncommon than any other color. I own a black smoke, his dad is black smoke, his litter brother is black smoke, a number of his half sisters and half brothers are black smokes... they're not that rare.
your not the only one :rofl:keep looking at pic , anna still in cage they are 5mths but cant get done till she ok the one i have seen and want is a boy
so not going their cant take any risk of kittens
OH just a thought the price of her vet bill <not fin yet> I could have had 2 new kits and still had change:shy:
Hi yes as far as I know it's the solid blacks which are rare, not the black smokes. But I'm fairly new to the breed.
They aren't that rare really - I have seen quite a few over the last months, including my gorgeous Storm!
All you need is at least one silver/smoke parent and for the other parent to carry solid or be solid as smoke is the solid version of silver.
So, if you had a silver classic tabby and another silver classic tabby and they both carried solid you would get black smokes.
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Originally Posted by Antonia
Here is a black smoke stunner... Apollo brother from the mother of our babies.... I have been hoping and praying for another one.. maybe next year!!!
A stunner indeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by debbie560
Love his white paws... :kisses:
He is lovely. I would never have realised that those markings were black smoke - I assumed that black smokes were shades of black, didn't expect any white. Is he a 'typical' black smoke (if such a thing in the world of MC's exists!)?
Our Minnie’s mum is black smoke but she has two white toes on one of her front feet. So I guess larger markings are possible too. (Btw, I see the cat in Debbie’s picture has a white chin as well. He still looks ravishing though.)Quote:
Originally Posted by FreyjaRoMaine
Ohhh I love black smoke as well!! They are not that rare to find, and one day I hope to own my own black smoke maine coon.
It's one of my favourite colours in Maine Coons, next to blue (tabby), black (tabby) and white. I know someone with a black smoke tortie with white Maine Coon and that coonie is absolutely gorgeous! So maybe that would be an option as well for the future, but with torties my problem usually is that I find it more difficult to find one to my liking...
This is one of my first Maine Coons - she was a tortie smoke and white....I would kill to get another girl with this colouring.
Absolutely gorgeous!! I would really love to own a tortie with her colouring one day!Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodsideMaineCoons
He is rather ravishing isn't he.... he is from a red and white boy to a black silver girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreyjaRoMaine
The ravishing ones are always boys... lol..
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Originally Posted by WoodsideMaineCoons
Stunning..
We hope to mate our Tortie Smoke and white to our boy Jet a Blue Silver fingers crossed we get a nice smoke
She's really cute - not usually a tortie fan (yes, realise the irony now I have a blue tortie tabby!) - her little white ruff and paws looks really good with her tortie markings.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodsideMaineCoons
I want one!!!!!!!! Its not fair. Hubbie has said no to cat number 4 but I am so desperate for a black smoke one might just have to appear as if by magic. Husband is such a softie that I know he will fall in love the second he sees it! Maybe a bit of gentle persuasion is called for.........
I like your thinking - I always manage to talk my hubby around and then manage to make him think it was his idea in the first place. If all else fails, they just appear as if by magic ad it's not like I can then send them back....!Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire
Then do make sure to let him see a black smoke with golden eyes... if he's really the softie you say he is, he'll be wax in your hands (and in the kitty's paws).:nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire
I will! I am going to bring him to an MC cat show! I haven't been to one myself but I think this may be the way forward!!
Our kitty was officially registered as a black smoke and certainly was a little smoky up to a few months old. I'm afraid the smokiness disappeared and he is now a more solid black with white ruff and socks to match - a real cutie though :smile:
Smoke or not, your coonie is gorgeous! If you have the time, do post some new pictures of him. I'd love to see some recent pics!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishKitty
Woodside your Tortie is gorgeous - i neverliked torties until i saw maine coon torties and have fallen in love with all i have seen
Claire, it worked for me - I took OH to a cat show (was a general breed show, admittedly) but he was so taken with the whole cat thing that he's now up for getting a second cat, and the only breed we agree on is another MC. Worked a treat!Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire
We got our Black Smoke "Raggles" at no extra cost. He is the brother Storm of WoodsideMaineCoons from "Sueragdandy" in Cardiff. Susan has a few "smoked" kittens available at the moment.
Since I am so new to MC's, I'm definitely getting a bit confused about all the different coloring and pattern names.
Does anyone know of a website that may have a chart with PICTURES of samples of each type? I mean I know that every cat will be somewhat different, but just when I think I might understand the definition of smokes and silvers and parti-colors (etc, etc) then I see a cat labeled one of those that in the definition I thought I learned would be a different kind.... oy vey :suprised:
If you go onto the Maine Coon Club cat site they have a very good bit on colours & patterns,they start off with a few pictures but if you scroll down that page there is a very detailed report on them all,hope it helps...
Kari, you could try the Maine Coon Cat Club Website - down they left hand side they've got a link to colours and patterns, and they've got photo's to illustrate the different types. It's not brilliant but it's a good place to start.
Oops, didn't see Jackie's last post!
The MC Cat Club was definitely helpful. Now my main question left is the difference between "silvers" and "smokes". Some people seem to say they are the same, others say they are different. The site you referred me to did not mention "silvers", so it makes me wonder if maybe they are officially the same as smokes.... :smile:
Thanks again!
As far as I know, a smoke can be any color (black, blue, silver, red) but the color is only present in the top part of the fur. The lower 3/4 of each hair lacks pigment. You can see it when you brush the coat in the opposite direction - the white becomes visible underneath the black/blue/red/silver.
But please, anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Hmm... okay. I guess it's hard because I know I saw some other people SOMEWHERE (not necessarily on this site) talk about "silvers" as though they were less of a specific color and more of a category... But what you said sounds like it makes sense, so thank you! :)
Hi guys,
try these links...
Kisntel Maine Coons - Colour chart
The Maine Coon's Look
I hope that helps.
Best wishes,
Chak
Thanks Chak78. I really liked the second link you gave... I can't say I FULLY understood it all, but the geek in me read the entire thing :suprised:. I have no background in genetics at all, but I definitely found it quite interesting and now I feel like I just took a science class.
Isn't it so amazing how much goes into the color patterns of our kitties? And we thought it was just cute that they happen have that spot here or that stripe there. It's so much more! :koolkat:
Thanks Kingedmund, I did a lot of searching because we really wanted a solid blue boy and didn't know how they came about. It was a bit of a read, eh?! Thats why I liked the first link, cos if you're looking for a kitten, you can work out the possibilities from the chart. If there's stuff you're not sure about (like me!!) but want to ask, I'm sure there are a few knowledgable guys on here who can help!
Best wishes,
Chak
i find colours and genetics very tricky to work out but i am getting there.
my 'smoke onthewater' is a black smoke with white and we have a black smoke without white kitten..we also have another kitten which i thought was black smoke but may possibly be solid black, it is very tricky at the moment but i will watch over the next few weeks to see how things develope
black smokes are some of my favourites, i love the colour contrast:koolkat:
Louise
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