Thread: New GCCF show structure

Good luck with the show...

However I think what they charge for a show entry is ridiculous, and even if I did move back to the UK I would never show with them or register my kittens with them again..


After the lack of interest and lies from the GCCF and the office staff in particular during my case, I have little respect for them or their shows....

The only thing I will now contact them for is my certified pedigrees.... again something that they rip people off for £28. for only 3 generations!!!!

You can get a 5 generation certified pedigree from Tica for just 10 dollars and Neocat for 11.50 euros


The GCCF will need to do a lot more than offer another class and exclusion of Champions and Grand Champions to get people to show as much as they did...

Originally Posted by Tivicoons

I've just been on the GCCF official site and have seen that they are redoing the showing structure from June 2011, from then only untitled cats will be able to enter the open classes, and as your cat moves up the winning scale it can no longer be entered into classes that it has already attained.

I think this excellent (and probably overdue) as before you could get your young adult to a show only to find your cat competeing against grand champions etc. They have also introduced an award to top the Imperial level...that really is somewhere I'd never get, but it will get people showing some excellent cats again.

Kernow next month, lovely venue and if the weather is nice, chance for a walk on the beach.

I agree with it being long overdue & that is the one thing I like about showing under FB you have to move up once your cat has gained that level,what were the people trying to prove by showing their cat at a level they had already obtained to most of them it was just another piece of paper,another thing I don't like about GCCF is how people "show their cats"under certain judges so only tend to pick out the ones that they know like their type of cat.With Tica because of having so many different judges on the day if one doesn't like your cat for some reason the chances are that another judge will so you are all equal,at FB you do not know who your judge is until the day so pot luck also the chances are that you can get a judge who has never been over here before so all is completely unbiased,another thing that I don't think GCCF is at the moment,it used to make me smile at the GCCF shows where everything has to be white so as not to be able to give anything away as to who the cat belongs too & a judge would come in & say hello to a regular & actually call the cat by name,makes a bit of a mockery of it all.
With FB once your cat has made it to the top you can go for Prize of Honour which in turn means it still has the chance to be chosen for BIS line up & does allow for the more mature cat to carry on showing which is great,Merlyn went back several months after becoming a European Premier so he could show the new babes how it was all done.... With all showing you get the days when you think a judge is talking from the backside or is looking at a completely different cat to what you are thats the fun of showing but it is a lot nicer doing it in a relaxed friendly atmosphere,knowing on the day what the judge likes or dislikes about your animal & being able to have a good moan with lots of others.I have to agree with Debbie {nothing to do with the problems she has had} but they would have to make a lot more changes for me to ever think about showing under that registration again.

I'd love to give FB a go but they don't come down this way anymore, and I'm not too keen on travelling all day with the cats (or without them for that matter). I have given TICA a try three times and I have to say that they were even worse about giving ribbons to their 'gang' than even I could believe, after-all if That Woman's cat is a triple etc etc then in my opinion their prizes are worth very little...

For example at our second 'lets give TICA a chance' show, one judge couldn't make his mind up between my kitten and Dr H's kit, he asked his steward what one she prefered! It was funny how well the people who had helped organize the show did compared to the rest of us mortals! My friends cats got nowhere too, I suppose we all got lots of pionts etc. And as for our final, never again, TICA show at Taunton... it was a shambles, no vets, rubbish judging HOW CAN YOU TELL ANYTHING ABOUT A KITTEN BY SQUEEZING ITS MUZZLE? The judges obviously couldn't wait to leave, two of them had packed up their things by 2.30. I know the organizers had worked hard and, for some strange reason, thought trashy TICA were worth their effort, I have to disagree, if they held a show across the road I wouldn't cross the door!

One thing that really worries me about TICA is that you don't have to have a certificate of entireity, signed by your vet, placed with them, before you use your stud cat and register its kittens! One of the best cats I bred was a monorchid, so I could have registered him with them and used him as a stud and no one would have been any the wiser?!

This is from their site...

To register a litter of kittens, the dam must be registered with TICA (or being registered at the same time as the litter). If the sire is not registered with TICA, then a copy of the sire’s certified pedigree must be provided with the registration application (unless it is already held on file by TICA). The sire can also be registered with TICA at the same time if required. Certificates of Entirety are not required for sires

GCCF might be expensive but on registering a litter they really do check that the mating probably resulted in the kittens as stated on your paperwork.

I think we will have to beg to differ on this, but I would never buy a TICA registered kitten or show with them again, this is just personal experience and shock that they don't check on the status of stud cats.

My poor Chaz (the monorchid) had to have his stomach opened up, the vet never found the hidden testicle and Chaz's nature changed completely after the op, if anyone has seen a victious Maine Coon they will know that they are a real threat to other cats.

I gave him to a local family, telling them everything, Chaz had to live alone, indoors and would probably only live a few years... and yet under TICA I could have bred from him!

Originally Posted by Tivicoons

I'd love to give FB a go but they don't come down this way anymore, and I'm not too keen on travelling all day with the cats (or without them for that matter). I have given TICA a try three times and I have to say that they were even worse about giving ribbons to their 'gang' than even I could believe, after-all if That Woman's cat is a triple etc etc then in my opinion their prizes are worth very little...

For example at our second 'lets give TICA a chance' show, one judge couldn't make his mind up between my kitten and Dr H's kit, he asked his steward what one she prefered! It was funny how well the people who had helped organize the show did compared to the rest of us mortals! My friends cats got nowhere too, I suppose we all got lots of pionts etc. And as for our final, never again, TICA show at Taunton... it was a shambles, no vets, rubbish judging HOW CAN YOU TELL ANYTHING ABOUT A KITTEN BY SQUEEZING ITS MUZZLE? The judges obviously couldn't wait to leave, two of them had packed up their things by 2.30. I know the organizers had worked hard and, for some strange reason, thought trashy TICA were worth their effort, I have to disagree, if they held a show across the road I wouldn't cross the door!

One thing that really worries me about TICA is that you don't have to have a certificate of entireity, signed by your vet, placed with them, before you use your stud cat and register its kittens! One of the best cats I bred was a monorchid, so I could have registered him with them and used him as a stud and no one would have been any the wiser?!

This is from their site...

To register a litter of kittens, the dam must be registered with TICA (or being registered at the same time as the litter). If the sire is not registered with TICA, then a copy of the sire’s certified pedigree must be provided with the registration application (unless it is already held on file by TICA). The sire can also be registered with TICA at the same time if required. Certificates of Entirety are not required for sires

GCCF might be expensive but on registering a litter they really do check that the mating probably resulted in the kittens as stated on your paperwork.

I think we will have to beg to differ on this, but I would never buy a TICA registered kitten or show with them again, this is just personal experience and shock that they don't check on the status of stud cats.

My poor Chaz (the monorchid) had to have his stomach opened up, the vet never found the hidden testicle and Chaz's nature changed completely after the op, if anyone has seen a victious Maine Coon they will know that they are a real threat to other cats.

I gave him to a local family, telling them everything, Chaz had to live alone, indoors and would probably only live a few years... and yet under TICA I could have bred from him!

Lol, seems you also have had problems with Tica, although I am a Tica registered Cattery I have only registered 2 litters with Tica at the request of new owners who wanted to show Tica, I found them slow to be honest, and I have shown 3 times UK Tica and enjoyed it... but that was in the very early days when they came to the UK.


I like Neocats, THEY have very strict rules, no 1 you have to pay for your prefix every year.
No 2 they insist on all certified pedigrees before they will register a litter, and the show was amazing and well run with one of the strictest vetting in processes I have ever been through.

NEO CATS is where I register all my kittens, however some of the colours they do not recognise Like the Bi- colour pointed and white British and so I WILL register these Tica. Until there are enough of them, like with the GCCF that NEOCAT will start to include the colour in their allowed breeds.

In one respect for Tica also they can be very sensible on some issues.. like the somali x Abyssinian, in all cases GCCF and NEOCAT the variants from this litter stay this way until they have been bred true to Abyssinian and or Somali for 3 generations..

Tica WILL if a long haired gene test is done and comes back that the long haired gene is not present in the variant kitten they will register it as a Abyssinian.


Swings and roundabouts... but I am sure there are many of us that have had problems..

What I disliked about the GCCF in principal is the way they take money but are not good at fighting your corner for you.
FIFE and TICA will

Many years ago I made a mistake with a registration on my wonderful Frodo Baggins.

I put his father down as Waggytail Mccavity, a boy I still owned and was actually showing as a neuter. he had gained before Frodo was even a twinkle in anyones eye a PC.

The true father was Guargantua Molvolio the mother was the same.

I showed Frodo he got one CC and then a second and 2 red card days.... and even showed him with Waggy none the wiser, until the GCCF contacted me and informed me.

Now I knew who the father was and so did many breeders lol... I had all waggys daughters and Frodo was going to be bred to them lol

Long story short, I admitted my mistake as it was true Waggy was not the daddy...

But it cost me a fine of £250.00 and fees and the loss of 2 CC for a genuine mistake... which I admitted...


End of the day Frodo had not been used, and technically he was the same cat shown no matter who his daddy was, but boy did they want their pound of flesh, I was on the stewarding scheme at the time, and I was so angry..... BUT that is the GCCF.... take your money... and then bye bye..