Thread: How much??

Hi
Its difficult as I have 5 cats but recently kitted my mum out for a rescue coonie. Monthly pet insurance is about £17 with pet plan, you can get cheaper with them but they are the best and will insure a problem from year to year where other insurers will rule it out after a year. We have a scheme with our vets where we pay £16 a month which covers all vaccinations and flea treatment and wormers so I would say about £200 a year for that lot. Food, we feed Royal Canin with is about £25/26 a 4kg bag, this would last one cat quite a while, maybe even a month or more. Litter is another cost, we use one called pure paws which is a clumping litter that you dont change regularly you just scoop out the lumps. A bag is £10 but lasts for ages once the tray is set up, 2 bags to start as you need quite a lot in there.

So I would reckon taking everything into consideration and breaking it down into a monthly figure, it would be about £50 a month. Thats not taking into consideration all the toys etc lol.

I think coonies should always have a friend, we have 3 coonies and 2 moggies and a dog. Food wise the bigger the bag the cheaper it is per kg. We feed ours a high calorie royal canin food which means they dont eat that much of it, so for the 5 its costs about £50 in food a month.

Good luck, you are making the best decision you will ever make. We had 3 moggies and fell in love with a coonie, then another then another. I love our moggies but coonies are a treat in themselves!

I concur - my three boys are costing me about that except I have chosen instead of insurance to put £50/month in a savings account for the three of them. At 6 months old they eat more than adults - they are growing - and get through about £4 wet food a day between them (Bozita + HiLife) plus random amounts of dry food. For cat litter I use Chick Crumb @ £7.45/20kg bag - this lasts about 2 weeks a bag.

Initial capital costs included carrier, litter tray, bowls, water fountain, cat tree, scratching posts, bedding, toys, toys, toys. Oh, and toys.

If you want to let them out but not to roam free them cat proofing the garden or building a cat run costs hundreds. Just starting that here, after having the basic fencing brought back to standard.

Also, as above, two or more is not just more fun but they are company for each other if you are away from the house for any amount of time.

They are always worth it - and simply by asking the question you are already a responsible enough person to deserve to be an MC slave ;-)

Yes we have put a cat run in the garden, it cost £300 and £50 for a dog kennel for somewhere for them to hide if they want, they only go out during the day.

Re the cat insurance, sorry I dont agree with putting money away. My ginger boy decided to chew a plastic shoe and swallow some plastic, £900 later they saved his life as it was lodged in his intestine. For that £50 a month you could pay insurance easily for 3 cats and be covered no matter what. Vets bills are so high, and at £25 just to visit I would never live without insurance. My highest bill was for my much missed black moggie Jessie, who got hit by a car and broke her hip, nearly £4000 later she was mended but all I paid was the £70 excess. Got to be worth it.

Sorry, should have explained; I have had poor experiences with insurers (cat and household and other) in the past and once you get into the T&Cs it's a nightmare. Instead I am putting away a "float" in a savings account but at all times I expect to be able to meet *any* vets bills from either my normal income or from savings. My Jess had £3,000 in vets bills back in 2005 when she had heart problems - and even after all that she still had to leave us :( I only queried certain items that the vets tried to "sneak past" grieving owners - they grudgingly owned up and cleared about 10% of the total. Hence I'll never use them again.

But yes, insurance is a must if you cannot afford to put up the money yourself in case things go wrong. A savings account is a good place to withhold money from greedy, conniving, evil insurance companies if you can.

My only concern is that vets prices - especially for those procedures that are expected to be covered by insurance - are clearly increased because the vets know the insurance company has a set of charges they will pay without question and so there is no price pressure on them. Those intentionally uninsured people like myself do not get a fair, open and competitive field to choose treatment for out pets. Try getting a printed price list from your vet. Go on. All of them will happily "estimate" costs on the phone but none will commit to them. Ever.

Originally Posted by Peter Galbavy

My only concern is that vets prices - especially for those procedures that are expected to be covered by insurance - are clearly increased because the vets know the insurance company has a set of charges they will pay without question and so there is no price pressure on them. Those intentionally uninsured people like myself do not get a fair, open and competitive field to choose treatment for out pets. Try getting a printed price list from your vet. Go on. All of them will happily "estimate" costs on the phone but none will commit to them. Ever.

I have to say that my vets are great, from using them now for the cats and in the past with a dog, but they are not one of the 'groups'. I used to use a practice who sold out to one of the groups and after they refused to see my dog who had known prostrate problems to them at 12 noon on a saturday as they were closed and said I had to go to the out of hours clinic where they would charge £97. just to see him before any treatment costs when he was booked in on the monday for a castration to solve the aformentioned problem. I called another practice in my area who were closing but own four practices and the vet who is duty on a saturday moves from practice to practice holding an open surgery and they offered me the choice of two to go to, guess who got my custom and recomendation in the future!!

They are very open about their prices and charge fair prices for their drugs better than the groups who wield a lot more power when it comes to buying theirs.

I think I am lucky too, they always give me an estimate of cost and have come in under it many times. They always put down stuff just incase, but dont always use them. I have been with them many years and do trust them. I had to go to another vet in an emergancy a few years ago and was horrified at the cost.

I havent ever had any problems with pet plan either, they have always paid out, even when its an on-going problem. My darling girl Jessie who passed away last year must have cost them about 10k over the years and they never questioned it.

But, I understand if you have had problems you will be reluctant. Horrid when the very people that are there if there is a problem cause you more!!

Should say as well, my vet has waited for me in the deep snow, after hours when my girl let us know it was time to go, we werent hurried through and they were just wonderful.

We didn't think ours would cost us that much owning a fish shop but they aren't bothered about it! So it's a fortune on biscuits and wet food! They have wet fish as a treat every 2-3 weeks but they leave half of it.

We have Rasputin insured under PetPlan and that's about £12 a month.

Foodwise:
1.5 tetra packs of Bozita a day means a cost of about £1.50 a day.
He also has Royal Canin kitten 36 down all day; our 4kg bag is almost finished after 3.5 months.

We use Beauticat Sophisticat wood pellet litter which is around £2-£3 for 5 litres; 10l seems to last about 3 weeks.

Excluding his insurance, I budget £60 a month for everything else (wormer/de-flea treatments/food/toys/litter etc.) and then extra money when it's time for jabs.

Initial set-up I reckon I spent about £300 but I did go quite mental and buy LOADS, I think you could probably spend nearer £150 and get all the basics sorted.

Hope that helps I'm sure it's possible to spend a lot less than I do!